@nafativedec YES! THANK YOU! I totally agree, its …
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Comment posted GOOD Health Myths Debunked: Nutrition by strek0655.
@nafativedec YES! THANK YOU! I totally agree, its so its nice to see someone use common sense and also look at our ancestral eating habits to explain what is the best diet. You are very right, the best diet is mixed because we ate mixed and out body have adapted to this, it will take thousands of years of pure vegan diet to make it as effective as a healthy balanced one!
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- By becoming obese, aren’t you techninically ruining your body?
- @SoylentCyan Who said anything about becoming obese?
- First: Being a vegetarian is something evolutionary unnatural for our body and a pure vegan will eventually suffer from nutritional deficiencies and eventually become anemic (pernicious anemia). Second: the first statement is correct BUT the body need to use energy anway so if one find out ones basal metabolic rate and finds out his/her average caloric use per day one can eat once a day and still lose weight, its all about eating less energy then you expend. (part 1 of 2)
- (part 2 of 2)
Third she talks about the “right form” of carbohydrates, she talks about what sort of food one gets it from which is correlated to the fiber composition and the impact on absorption, yes this is a good point but she forgets about mentioning the biochemical forms eg fructose is more slowly absorbed than glucose due to the fact that fructose do not have secondarily active transport. And end result is that all sugars (except polysaccharides like cellulose) gets metabolised to glucose - Wow, way to misspell protein, GOOD.
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October 5th, 2010 on 11:35 am
“some potato chips contain real potato” OOOOO RLY!!
October 5th, 2010 on 11:49 am
@HockeyDiane Soy is also full of proteins. You can get calcium from a handful of fresh spinach equivalent to a tall glass of cow milk. All the research you need can be found online if you put some time into it, and read multiple sources.
October 5th, 2010 on 12:04 pm
@xPythox I’m not saying fat in meat will make you fat. Lean meat’s have more protein, which keeps your blood sugar steady and can lower food cravings. I’m not a nutritionist, but I play sports competitively & have just put a lot of money into learning the healthiest way to eat.. So if anyone has questions about food you can message me.
October 5th, 2010 on 12:20 pm
@HockeyDiane Agreed about the potato chips and hamburgers thing, typical American thinking. Frying (let alone deep-frying!) destroys valuable and necessary nutrients in food rendering the food empty if not out-right cancerous. Eating fatty foods is not bad for your health however as fat does not turn into fat.
October 5th, 2010 on 12:27 pm
lol, bullshit !!
October 5th, 2010 on 1:03 pm
wow why would you care of one misspelled word. It was a common mistake. Find something that is important like strek, or wormsofthesense.
October 5th, 2010 on 1:57 pm
The source of better meat is organic. They feed the animals what nature and evolution intended. But organic meats only make up 1% of our modern day meat sales.
October 5th, 2010 on 2:24 pm
you should listen better it didn’t say meat was bad. She is just pointing out the fact that modern meats are a lower grade. You are right of our evolution but no mention of domestic animals that we eats evolution. The modern day domestic animals are cows, pigs, and chickens. These animals were never found in the USA it was found in others. But they are fed corn a USA crop. They never evolved to eat corn. So they produce unhealthy fats that could harm us.
October 5th, 2010 on 3:06 pm
@wormsofthesenses @wormsofthesenses Adn I do think the physiological workings of our body proves more than enough that a vegan diet is not a diet that has been prevalent in our history. Secondly the bacteria that produces the vitamin B12 reside in the colon, and the absorption is done in the ileum (which is the last part of the small intestines) making vitB12 only available to ourselves in sufficient amounts if we eat our own shit (that is called coprophagic) So you do that!
October 5th, 2010 on 3:21 pm
@wormsofthesenses Using epidemiological data to prove that a vegan diet is better than a normal diet is NOT a proof for anything since you do not take the financial aspect into consideration nor the population ratio! This argument proves that you don’t study public health. The fact that i say “there is concern about” is not a quote but a way of formulation which i can agree was a bad formulation but nontheless there is a problem for a vegan to absorb these substances (you google that)…
October 5th, 2010 on 3:31 pm
…whats in the potato chips that aren’t real potato 0_o
October 5th, 2010 on 4:14 pm
humans are naturally scavengers; we ate whatever we could find, which initially wouldn’t have included meat but later did. What we need in our diet today and what we needed in our diet at the beginning of our rapid evolution are very different.
You need to chill out dude XD
October 5th, 2010 on 4:33 pm
@strek0655 Most of the very few vegans who are malnutritioned are idiots who do not understand food and nutrition, or they believe they can survive completely on soy burgers. But to say that vegetarianism is “evolutionary unnatural” is stupid. I won’t try to argue why humans are an herbivorous species, as it is the same as convincing a religious nut why their beliefs are illogical. The bottom line is you can’t say whatever think makes sense when the facts do not back it up.
October 5th, 2010 on 4:44 pm
@strek0655 Nutrient deficiencies are twice as common in meat eaters than in vegans per capita (google it). B12 is produced by bacteria, not animal products, and takes anywhere from 5 to 20 years to develop a deficiency because it takes so long to absorb. Sure, iron may take longer to absorb in a vegan body, but it is irrelevant because it is not harmful. “There are concerns about…” is a completely arbitrary statement and does not “prove” anything.
October 5th, 2010 on 5:22 pm
Do you REALLY believe that humans are herbivores? That is such a blind statement that it borders pure stupidity and ignorance! You do your research on human evolution and the diet. Meat has ALWAYS been a part of human nature and will (probably) always remain so! Most of the holidays celebrated are historically related to a hunting ritual or tradition! Get your fast straight!
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October 5th, 2010 on 5:55 pm
@nafativedec YES! THANK YOU! I totally agree, its so its nice to see someone use common sense and also look at our ancestral eating habits to explain what is the best diet. You are very right, the best diet is mixed because we ate mixed and out body have adapted to this, it will take thousands of years of pure vegan diet to make it as effective as a healthy balanced one!
October 5th, 2010 on 6:18 pm
@wormsofthesenses Well can you please tell me how to get sufficient amount of vitamin B12 without eating meat or any animal related product? And what about Iron? I hope you know that Iron is more poorly absorbed by our body in a vegan diet than a normal balanced one. There are also concern about iodine and calcium and omega 3 fatty acids…. Need more proof? Now crawl up back in your own ass and do some thinking before you talk for a change!!
October 5th, 2010 on 6:36 pm
“Being a vegetarian is something evolutionary unnatural for our body and a pure vegan will eventually suffer from nutritional deficiencies and eventually become anemic (pernicious anemia).”
Which part of your ass did you pull that out of?
October 5th, 2010 on 7:18 pm
Higer grade meat is better for you, but it depends on where it comes from. McDonald’s uses mass-produced, non-veggie fed, antibiotic-filled corporate beef. Watch “Food, Inc.”
October 5th, 2010 on 7:35 pm
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October 5th, 2010 on 7:47 pm
Wow, way to misspell protein, GOOD.
October 5th, 2010 on 7:56 pm
(part 2 of 2)
Third she talks about the “right form” of carbohydrates, she talks about what sort of food one gets it from which is correlated to the fiber composition and the impact on absorption, yes this is a good point but she forgets about mentioning the biochemical forms eg fructose is more slowly absorbed than glucose due to the fact that fructose do not have secondarily active transport. And end result is that all sugars (except polysaccharides like cellulose) gets metabolised to glucose
October 5th, 2010 on 8:43 pm
First: Being a vegetarian is something evolutionary unnatural for our body and a pure vegan will eventually suffer from nutritional deficiencies and eventually become anemic (pernicious anemia). Second: the first statement is correct BUT the body need to use energy anway so if one find out ones basal metabolic rate and finds out his/her average caloric use per day one can eat once a day and still lose weight, its all about eating less energy then you expend. (part 1 of 2)
October 5th, 2010 on 9:05 pm
@SoylentCyan Who said anything about becoming obese?
October 5th, 2010 on 9:39 pm
By becoming obese, aren’t you techninically ruining your body?